Any angel can be God's spirit ,as far as I'm concerned God's spirit is also Satan ,so the God's spirit anointed organisation can read also ,God's spirit=Satan anointed organisation .Is that possible?
raymond frantz
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Which Spirit is the God's Spirit in the 2nd Baptismal VOW?
by raymond frantz inhi guys i need some help here and wonder if any of you can offer some comments .the second baptismal question is :"do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah's witnesses in association with god's spirit-directed organization?
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which spirit are they talking about since it is not refered to as the holy spirit?.
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Which Spirit is the God's Spirit in the 2nd Baptismal VOW?
by raymond frantz inhi guys i need some help here and wonder if any of you can offer some comments .the second baptismal question is :"do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah's witnesses in association with god's spirit-directed organization?
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which spirit are they talking about since it is not refered to as the holy spirit?.
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Hi guys I need some help here and wonder if any of you can offer some comments .The second baptismal question is :"Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization? "
Which spirit are they talking about since it is not refered to as the holy spirit?
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1/15 WT- Guilt, Guilt, and More Guilt ! Black & White Cult Reasoning !
by flipper inthis particular article was discussed or touched on a couple months ago regarding the wt society's statement concerning jw's putting " jehovah above everything else- including the family bond " .
so i won't address those points in this thread, but there are many other points to address where the wt society uses guilt and black & white cult reasoning to control jw's minds with this information from the article titled, " let nothing distance you from jehovah ".
first off in paragraph 5 the wt tries to make people feel guilty looking for work and insists that if you get any job that takes you away from family- it will distance you from jehovah !
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raymond frantz
It is mind blowing how detached they are from reality having lost all credibility .They are like little babies that want attention all the time .One thing remains to be seen WHEN will someone tell them to SHUT UP in public .I forgot ,the new light says they can only attend special assemblies where only the best drones attend pre-selected ,to avoid any unwelcome surprises
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Planning exit, alternative venues to preach?
by Goodstein inbackground:.
i've come to the conclusion that many doctrines of the wts are unscriptural after many years of privately disagreeing with some of them but feeling that the society was "mostly right" and still being used by jehovah.
this turning point has happened in the last year or so.
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raymond frantz
i had the same dillema and I couldn't find any church to shut me ,so I started a meetup group in my area for free thinking Christians ,first meeting 14 people turned up.I can't remember the last time I was free to talk about and debate about the Bible ,best experience so far and definetely substitutes and fills the void
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A Message to Active Elders Lurking on JWN
by 00DAD inthere are really only a couple of reasons an active elder would be lurking here on jwn.. .
[if !supportlists]i. your ever growing doubts about the organization have led you here, or.
[if !supportlists]ii.
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Planning exit, alternative venues to preach?
by Goodstein inbackground:.
i've come to the conclusion that many doctrines of the wts are unscriptural after many years of privately disagreeing with some of them but feeling that the society was "mostly right" and still being used by jehovah.
this turning point has happened in the last year or so.
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses a hierarchical religion? And does it matter?
by cedars inthis is the title of my latest article, which is available on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/are-jehovahs-witnesses-a-hierarchical-religion-and-does-it-matter.
inspired by the illustration in the april 15th watchtower (above), i thought it would be worthwhile to further explore this facet of the society for two reasons.... because the society has spent decades criticizing the catholic church for being hierarchical, andbecause the society has recently become more open about its hierarchical nature than ever before.below is a diagram i have prepared which shows the organizational similarities that watch tower society now shares with the catholic church.... .
until recently, the governing body could place the "faithful slave" above it at the top of the pyramid, but as of october 5th this fuzzy doctrine was scrapped - thus removing the final distinguishing factor between the governing body and popedom.. as always, i would be interested in your thoughts.... .
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raymond frantz
It isn't a conspirancy theory to say that there is something really dark going on at the top !
How many Christian organisations would dear publish such a picture without Jesus
They are Satan's agents laughing in your face
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses a hierarchical religion? And does it matter?
by cedars inthis is the title of my latest article, which is available on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/are-jehovahs-witnesses-a-hierarchical-religion-and-does-it-matter.
inspired by the illustration in the april 15th watchtower (above), i thought it would be worthwhile to further explore this facet of the society for two reasons.... because the society has spent decades criticizing the catholic church for being hierarchical, andbecause the society has recently become more open about its hierarchical nature than ever before.below is a diagram i have prepared which shows the organizational similarities that watch tower society now shares with the catholic church.... .
until recently, the governing body could place the "faithful slave" above it at the top of the pyramid, but as of october 5th this fuzzy doctrine was scrapped - thus removing the final distinguishing factor between the governing body and popedom.. as always, i would be interested in your thoughts.... .
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Did you spot the missing person in the original picture? JESUS
The true pyramid is :
1.Governing Body (GOD/MEDIATIOR)
2.Jehovah (Governing Body's puppet)
3.CO/DO's (area managers)
4.Elders (Police)
5.Rank & File (Ham harrets)
(Jesus not needed anymore ...you won't find him in the picture)
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666 and the Governing Body CONNECTION!!!
by raymond frantz in.
why would an organisation that knows so much about numbers and their use in the bible choose to develop their structure around the number 6?.
the number of the man -666.
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I don't believe in this theory of templelijah but it strikes my as odd how many times they used the number in structuring their organisation
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666 and the Governing Body CONNECTION!!!
by raymond frantz in.
why would an organisation that knows so much about numbers and their use in the bible choose to develop their structure around the number 6?.
the number of the man -666.
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THis is no mine .I found it here The Bible report when I was researching the Romanian Association of Jehovah's Witnesses (the largest organised Jehovah's Witness sect in Romania) that belive that the Governing Body is the Antichrist.This is the study of a Romanian brother who spend decades in prison under the communist regime and some of his work is translated in the above website